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Posted by billzant on March 7, 2012

B12 is something we need, within the URL’s I have quoted there is sufficient information taht makes that clear. I read of Christine Pirello (her B12 story) who was vegan macrobiotic and made herself seriously ill after her natural supplies of B12 ran out. She had cured herself of leukemia through vegan macrobiotics, and then experienced this aneurism through B12 deficiency. “With simple supplementation, an increase in good quality fat…and a new understanding of how to balance work and rest, I have, once again, discovered the great life promised me by this lifestyle” is how she dealt with the problem.

Now personally I am against the use of supplements especially vitamin supplements. I am willing to take spirulina supplements as that is the only way I can get those algae (when I can get them), but industry marketing vitamin supplements I don’t trust.

In Thailand I found ga bpi and a good source of shell food at the market. Ga bpi is shrimp paste ground with the shells and I add this to a vegetable coconut milk dish I make. I often add mussels (hoi) to this as well – shellfish are good for old bones, and sometimes add the ga bpi for salt in my food. In general I feel that we are given foods by Nature and therefore don’t believe it is necessary to avoid natural foods such as meat,. However, and this is important, I consider the conditions that we keep our animals in and the dangers we cause ourselves with all the antibiotics sufficient for me not to eat meat. Disagree? Watch the movies “Earthlings” and Food Inc, and form your own conclusion. There are vegetarian zealots who might disagree about my minimal fish consumption but we must all reach our own conclusions.

In this article concerning B12 Dr Mercola discusses the possibility of different human types needing different types of food consumption. I don’t know about how far I go with this. I certainly do not accept that it justifies excessive meat consumption (daily basis). But when we are under fire from animal lib zealots I think it is important for us to recognise that we require different food intakes. I know a vegan mb friend in good health who says that the body provides what it needs through a form of transmutation. He has been a healthy vegan mb for a long time so it works for him, but it did not work for Christine Pirello.

For all vegans and vegetarians the need to consider B12 intake is very serious in the long term, make it part of your diet. Here is a vegan site with B12 details.

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Snacking on cake

Posted by billzant on February 20, 2012

One of the biggest problems I have had since starting my diet is what to have for a nibble!! I buy seaweed but that doesn’t do it for me. I also nibble on fruit but then I made up this cake – and I am fine. I had never really thought of making cakes because they require eggs until I discovered that vegans could bind foods without eggs. And the solution I liked best was bananas with wholewheat flour, both of which I can get locally, and then I went from there. I am so pleased with this cake that I have bought gadgets to cook it with, one gadget for pureeing and a cake mixer – typical of me a bit over the top.

Now there are standard ingredients to making the cake with a few variations.

Standard Ingredients:-

Bananas and coconut milk
Add muesli
2 tbsp brown flour

Variable Ingredients


Dried Fruit

lanyai heeng


3 spoons of bpooi kaak


Step 1 In the mixing bowl make the coconut milk puree. I get the coconut milk from the market (hua ga ti), and then add ripe yellow bananas – two or three large or a bunch of small. For variation I can add other fruits such as mango or pineapple to the puree.

Step 2 Once pureed, add muesli, and mix throughly. The mixture thickens but it is not completely bound.

Step 3 Add dried fruit. I like the lanyai heeng, it always reminds me of Xmas cake. I add some raisins as
well – luuk geet. And 1 or 2 teaspoonfuls of bpooi kaak (Chinese anis) gives a lovely tang.

Step 4 Final thickening by adding 2 tablespoonfuls of wholewheat flour. Mix thoroughly and you should get good cake mixture ready for the oven.

I can’t help you with oven settings as I have a small tabletop oven. I have a small tray and I put the mixture in the tray sprinkling it with some black sesame seeds (to avoid osteoporosis). Then I stick it in the oven for 20 minutes. These cakes go off quickly so I keep three pieces in the fridge and put the rest in the freezer. Because of the ingredients these are a substantial nibble between meals and yet no health consequences – except take care with excessive amounts of coconut milk.

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Zandtao Plan

Posted by billzant on February 20, 2012

Since I started my healing I have gone through different healing stages, and have developed the Zandtao Plan – this is now a fixed page at Gin Sukapaap Dee.

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Broad healing

Posted by billzant on January 2, 2012

I just read this article by Verne Verona on macrobiotics. The problem with macrobiotics is that it just focusses on food, or at least most of the people who claim they follow macrobiotics do. In theory the macrobiotic approach is much wider including meditation and chi, but far too often this is not advocated. In the end healing, at whatever level, becomes an analysis of minutiae with regards to food preparation, and ignore the breadth necessary for whole healing. As a non-processed diet helps the body, many are convinced they are doing enough with the diet, and miss the essentials of developing good human energy and a stable mind.

The article begins with an amusing irony concerning the state of medicine at the moment – not too amusing for Verne at the time.

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Santi Asoke

Posted by billzant on June 12, 2011

Well here is  my first stop in the Mindful Consuming. Now I might have some facts wrong so I hope I will be corrected.

Santi Asoke is a Buddhist sect here in Thailand who have broken away from the mainstream. They have several centres in Thailand and I visited the centre in Kamphaeng Phet near Chatuchak market. All I read about the Santi Asoke  Movement reads great. They are organic, anti-capitalist and so on, they support Tan Ajaan (Ajaan Buddhadhasa) but I am unsure about their politics. Whilst I agree with Engaged Buddhism, in fact a Mindful Consumer Network is all about Engaged Buddhism, I do not know enough about Thai politics to comment. When I read this, I feel very positive; but … the politics.

So I will stick to what I found. I found a large cheap food court with a great variety. And I found a store selling far more than my Aden’s – although there were no organic veg in the store; according to Happy Cow they sell veg (I can’t have seen it). Round the side there was even a stall selling wheatgrass. What more can you ask?

Well a couple of things. First of all there were many Thai-style dishes (ie meat-looking) but they confirmed for me it was all “protein”. By this they meant TVP, and I think of that as processed soy and avoid it quite simply because it is processed. From what I could see in the shop the “protein” sold was no different from anywhere else – apologies if I am wrong my Thai is poor.

But my big disappointment was delivery. I wanted to have a regular order of organic veg and perhaps food from the shop. The lady in the shop was too busy to help, but I was able to get my Thai teacher to phone and she was told that everyone was volunteers and were too busy to organise delivery. Maybe one of the other centres could help.

My apologies but another disappointment is their English website.

Despite the concerns about politics and the delivery issue I still feel they are worth supporting. Here is a community growing organic food by service  (volunteers) trying to withdraw from the all-pervasive capitalism. Apart from this article I cannot support them much but would like to promote them. Apparently (see article above) much of the stuff they sell is in-house as opposed to the other people I buy from who are intermediaries (ie within capitalism).

Finding them in Chatuchak is not straightforward but it is Thailand. There is a map here. Get off the MRT at Kamphaeng Phet and go up Kamphaeng Phet 2, after 3/400 metres take a left, keep walking 50/100m and  you reach the restaurant. If you go along Kamphaeng Phet 2 and reach JJ Mall you have gone past the turning. I get a taxi!


Although I usually visit their restaurant when I am in Bangkok, I haven’t got very far into them. I asked once if they would order – too busy. I will remember they have no plastic bags!!

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Posted by billzant on May 23, 2011

I am convinced that excess yeast is quite endemic as a health problem. Yeast balance is essential in the human digestive system but bad diet means the yeast proliferates. I first came across candida when I had migraines, and a homeopath put me on candida diet. It helped but I didn’t follow it through. Since I have been eating cheewajit migraines have gone but I am convinced that yeast produces fatigue on occasions. Excess yeast is caused by antibiotics but also alcohol and sweet stuffs provide the internal conditions for the yeast to grow.

Thailand is mixed with regards to remedies for candida. You need to promote good bacteria in your digestive system, one supplement that does this is probiotics. This was why I contacted Natural and Premium as they had a good but expensive Herbal Pro probiotic drink. I can also order probiotics from Good Karma, but I can’t buy it locally.

However there are some good products that promote  good bacteria available. Mostly umeboshi plums, 60 baht for a big  jar from the market, known as Chinese plums called buai. I can also get some nice lime pickles, again 60 baht from the market.  There are diushes Thais make which are sour, this also helps produce a good digestive environment. With the rejuvelac this helps a great deal, but I wanted more.

For example there is no natural yoghourt – with acidophilis. And I wanted to make kefir but cannot get the starter. This is a problem for other fermented drinks such as kombucha tea – I cannot get starters. I wish the online stores would look into this starter issues.


I have moved much further on with pH balance and candida – please see fermentation page. I am always conscious of fermented products in my diet – usually drink.

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Posted by billzant on March 19, 2009

When Thai people ask me what is my diet I say “Cheewajit”. For me Cheewajit is a Thailand diet which is macrobiotic without the yinyang balance. Many Thais say to me they do Cheewajit a bit!!

Cheewajit is very important to me and one of the main reasons I am trying to develop this blog. All Thai people who eat Cheewajit will use recipes and access sourcing for foods in Thailand that macrobiotic people could use. So ginsukapaapdee is asking for their contributions. Can you help us with restaurants, sourcing and recipes?

Cheewajit  is a diet started by Dr Sathit who has a foundation promoting his cures. There is  a Cheewajit website (in Thai)

and the foundation promotes training and activities. In Bangkok Dr Sathit is based at Bangkok 9 International Hospital, 10th floor.

Email for the website is


Sadly Dr Sathit has died but I understand that his work continues at the hospital. I also believe there is a Cheewajit magazine.

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Posted by billzant on March 19, 2009

What do these people eat?

Vegans – people do not eat meat, fish or dairy.

Vegetarian – people do not eat meat or fish.

Macrobiotics – people tend to eat natural food and balance their foods using the principle of yinyang. They tend not to eat processed foods, sugar, coffee etc. They eat mainly grains, beans, vegetables and fruit – and a little fish.

In Thailand brown rice is a good indication of healthy food but in restaurants it is rare to find brown rice. Buying brown rice is quite easy as main supermarkets have it, but it is more difficult to buy organic brown rice.

A vegetarian diet can be more healthy but not eating meat or fish only marginally improves your health. Of course a vegetarian diet can embrace healthier eating such as not eating processed foods.

It is healthier to eat organic food as organic food has not been sprayed with chemicals or pesticides. It is not known how much these chemicals affect the foods but logic tells us that foods without pesticides are less likely to be harmful.

If we write about restaurants, can we write (with tags) suitable for macrobiotics, vegans or vegetarians and whether food is organic?

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Gin sukapaap dee!

Posted by billzant on March 18, 2009

Welcome to Healthy Diet in Thailand – กิมสุขภาพดี – gin sukapaap dee.

I am convinced Thailand can be a healthy place to live but it is not always easy finding what is good for your  health as I have recently found out when just starting a macrobiotic diet.

For people on a diet they need sourcing, restaurants etc. Can you help with this?

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